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By: Sylvain Galineau

You may not have failed; the ‘living standard vs. w3c’ background noise is so pervasive lately that I may have missed the signal. And, by the way, I fully understand how, from a Ian Hickson...

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By: Ojan Vafai

The problem is not using vendor prefixes. It’s now long it takes to remove them. It’s fine that features need to go to CR in order to remove the prefixes. The problem how long it takes the a spec to...

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By: Robert O'Callahan

“What front-ender in 2011 doesn’t test on at least two browsers?” Most developers of mobile-focused Web sites, who test only on Webkit. This includes Google developers. When we’ve asked Google teams to...

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By: Boris

> What front-ender in 2011 doesn’t test on at > least two browsers? 90+% of developers of mobile sites. They all test in a single UA (WebKit) and move on. And since that UA actively encourages...

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By: Yehuda Katz

To me, this is the money shot in Alex’s article: “And how did we think we’d get a good standard, anyway? By sitting in a room in a conference center more often and thinking about it harder? Waiting on...

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By: Jon Rimmer

I don’t see a spot of evidence in your post to back your assertion that vendor prefixes have been “critical” in accelerating innovation. Nothing suggests that Apple wouldn’t have shipped transforms,...

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By: Henri Sivonen

@Alex: We’ve had the prefixing policy in place for over a decade. It’s been use particularly much in the last four years. At this point, I think it’s fair to expect the dynamics that the policy gives...

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By: Yehuda Katz

@Henri the risks to other browsers could be mitigated if the working groups moved more quickly to approve recommendations that are gaining traction in the marketplace. Microsoft hasn’t exactly been...

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By: Sylvain Galineau

@Yehuda, there is a very significant difference between submitting specs that move too slowly – which by the way? and compared to what other modules? Animations and Transitions were submitted, edited...

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By: Mike Edward Moras (e-sushi™)

Geez, is that what happens when you work on Chrome? Forget about facts? Saying that “Vendor Prefixes Are A Rousing Success” is like trying to convince people the Earth is a flat disc. Vendor prefixes...

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By: Justin

As a very active web application developer, it’s clear who builds web apps, and who does not. +1 Yehuda Katz Btw, copying 4 lines for every rounded corner? Everyone uses LESS now right?

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By: Bruce Lawson’s personal site  : Reading List

[...] Vendor Prefixes Are A Rousing Success. I tend to agree with Alex here, but think that Robert O’Callahan makes an excellent point that Alex’s proposal benefits WebKit (and thus his employer,...

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By: Vendor prefixes: the good, the bad and the ugly

[...] This divided opinion. DanielGlazmandisagreed in a point-by-point rebuttal, but Alex Russell was more emphatic still, saying “vendorprefixesarearousingsuccess”: [...]

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By: CSS Vendor Prefixes! | folktrash

[...] pointed me to this: http://infrequently.org/2011/11/vendor-prefixes-are-a-rousing-success/ – #word. Also, -beta- would be better, though responsibility stays in developers [...]

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By: alex

Henri: RE: iteration in one namespace vs. many. Could work if the versions in the standard namespace are similarly incompatible, but it removes the ability to change your prefix (-ms-feature,...

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By: alex

Sylvain: I agree about people vs. process. Part of what I was hoping to illuminate in this post (but failed to, it seems) is that it’s all people all the way down. Giving those people better tools and...

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By: RichB

Everyone is ignoring the real problem exposed by vendor prefixes – that there are too many vendors. Browser monoculture FTW!

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By: alex

Francois: It’s a little difficult to take your critique seriously. I’m not suggesting that the W3C should “keep up” in perhaps the sense you mean…no WG should ever be a gate-keeper for experimentation....

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By: FremyCompany

@Alex: Yes, I’m angry on this matter. And reading your article actually made me angrier, especially the “Don’t trust the impletors, don’t trust the spec editor, listen to me instead” part at the end....

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